Post # 16
Babies are not going to starve in the couple of days that you are in the hospital! even if you are one of those women who does have problems with breastfeeding.
It is totally normal for breast milk to take 3-5 days to come in, and most women are home well before that.
This is the website our Provincial NurselIne uses. There is lots of great information available on newborns including When to Call the Doctor.
Post # 17
I really wouldn’t worry about it. Are you going to have help? Your Darling Husband, mom maybe?
The nurses have all done this a million times. They will help you. And you’re having multiples so I’m sure they will expect you might need to supplement a bit. If you’re really concerned, bring a few bottles and a container of formula.
Post # 18
Thank you ladies for all the feedback! I feel a bit calmer now about it now. I guess what irks me, (and I read up on this baby-friendly initiative) is that this particular hospital does not give a choice. Other hospitals (with same initiative) encourage to room in, but leave the door open to put the baby in the nursery if warranted or at parents request. They educate on breastfeeding, but are supportive of all other options. When I talked to this hospital, they sounded very strict and firm on no formula unless pediatrician approves (adds more stress on mom to get the approval) and absolutly no taking baby out of the room – so no options for parents. I am wondering what happens if worst case mom has complications and has to go to ICU or something, how does that work if they closed the nursery completly. Also, what made me angry was to read a paper on how that initiative push is really not to be “baby friendly” – it is to save money. Closing nurseries and having baby with mom 24/7 saves hospitals a tons of money and the breastfeeding program push came from the government, so they don’t have to give out free formula through WIC program to low – income families. So there seems to be purely monetary motivations behind all those so-called “baby friendly” programs. I just hate the idea of forced ideology on people and not giving parents options.
Post # 19
My hospital calls itself baby friendly but they still had formula if anytime needed it. Maybe you can ask if your hospital does when you do a tour. If you do want to breastfeed though, it’s best to stay away from formula for the first few days unless the babies are not peeing enough… most women only produce a few drops of milk at first, and if the baby complains and nurses a lot that’s what helps milk come in properly.
No nursery does sound pretty awful with twins. The nurses will hopefully be very helpful, but also, will the hospital let anyone stay with you to help you care for the kids?
Post # 20
I work at a Baby Friendly hospital. We do promote breastfeeding but we certainly would never ban formula. Formula is necessary sometimes, and if that is your choice, your hospital must respect that. We ask all moms when they are first admitted what their feeding plan is. We also ask them if they recieved information about feeding in the office, if they took any birthing/breastfeeding classes, or if they would like more information on breastfeeding. If the choice is formula, we do not try to change your mind!
We do not stock pacifiers but you can bring your own and use it if you wish.
Our hospital also does “rooming in” instead of keeping babies in the nursery, but we still have one in case moms need a break and some sleep. Also, all fresh post-op c-sections and patient who are on magnesium are not allowed to be in their room alone with the baby in case they fall asleep holding the baby or cannot get to the baby in the bassinet (since moms are bedbound) if baby needs care. So if mom is going to be alone, we take the baby to the nursery until she has a guest/ baby’s dad in the room with her. They also use the nursery for babies who need extra attention but not necessarily a NICU admission, and some procedures, like circumcisions. Maybe this is what your hospital means when they say they don’t have a nursery- that they have one, but it’s not meant for regular use?
I would definitely recommend taking a hospital tour or birth class to answer any questions you have about your hospital’s policies and practices.
Post # 21
I gave birth at a baby friendly hospital. It wasn’t ideal but it also wasn’t horrible either.
The only major plus for me was the ability to do skin-to-skin after the c-section. Now, I didn’t last long with that because I was sick to my stomach and kind of threw up on DS (oops). So I had them take him away and Darling Husband did skin-to-skin while I was stitched up. But I liked the opportunity.
I planned to breastfeed and did at the hospitbal but we had lots of issues, mostly due to latching. Come to find out I wasn’t producing much colostrum (or milk) so my baby lost almost 11% of his birth weight. Because of this they told us we had to supplement with forumla before we were allowed to be released. And because they still wanted me to breastfeed we had to attempt that first, then supplement with formula through a small tube that was placed next to the nipple, so kind of mimic breastfeeding.
The worst thing was the absence of a nursery. DS was super cranky at night, which we now realize was because he was hungry. We were in the hospital three nights following the birth and by the third night we were absolutely exausted. I would have preferred to put him in the nursery that night if possible. Instead we begged the nurses to watch him at their station for 2-3 hours so we could get a small bit of sleep.
Post # 22
ktsteimel : Mine had forumla on hand. I never produced milk so we had to begin to supplement before the we were discharged. The hospital provided the formula.
Post # 23
I didn’t know my hospital was “baby friendly” but it was all these things and I loved it, wouldn’t have expected it or wanted it any other way.
Post # 24
solnishko1186 : I don’t think any hospital is going to refuse to give formula if it’s medically necessary, and if your looking to formula feed by choice then you can always bring formula with you, the same applies with a paci.
with regards to closing the nursery, I’m in New Zealand and hospital nurseries just don’t exist! The hospital midwives are usually quite happy to take baby for a few hours if needed but having baby in room just isn’t a big deal.
my other piece of advice to you would be to get in touch with your local LLL or an IBCLC to have an antenatal consult if you’re planning to breastfeed. Having a plan (especially with multiples!) will be very helpful for you and having someone you can call for help when you need it will be invaluable!
Post # 25
My hospital didn’t have a nursery but I wouldn’t have wanted to be away from mh newborn!!!! After all the effort to bring my daughter into the world, there was no way that she was leaving my sight. I also had a C section and I was tired, but I never would have left her.
Post # 26
My hospital had a nursery and I still had to basically force them to take my kid for a few hours so I could sleep. I went home before my milk came in, without any formula and when my kid lost almost 10% of his birthweight we were scrambling. I cannot roll my eyes hard enough at “baby friendly” hospitals (are the other ones baby unfriendly?). Luckily my ped practice was way more on board with the way I wanted to parent and were supportive of me in the hospital. Just advocate for yourself and you should be fine.
Post # 27
There was a nursery at my hospital on the Transitional Care Ward where we were. This was part of the NICU and for babies who were getting ready to go home having been in NICU/only a little bit poorly (like my daughter) I’m not sure if there was a nursery on the main delivery ward but I doubt it.
The nursery was used for procedures and you could pop the baby in whilst you ate meals/had a shower or a quick nap but you couldn’t leave the baby there all the time
my hosptial encouraged breastfeeding but had formula if you wanted it.
The nurses were friendly and offered to take my daughter for a couple of hours at night but would return (often) for her to feed.
I think the idea of a hospital nursery surprises me, unless in a circumstance when you’re in for longer than you might normally be. I guess it’s because keeping baby close to Mum is really important.
Post # 28
I gave birth at a baby friendly hospital and it was great! There was 24 hour nurses and lactation consultants on call so I could get help with breastfeeding whenever I needed. Also, Darling Husband was rooming with baby and me so he helped hold her skin to skin and soothe her when Dear Daughter wasn’t feeding.
My bestie gave birth at this same hospital and had trouble colostruming at first. They gave her a tube attached to the nipple so her son could get a little nutrition without causing potential nipple confusion. So don’t worry about your babies starving! She didn’t sleep well in the hospital while rooming with her baby, but I think it’s more her personality than the hospital’s fault.
Post # 29
solnishko1186 : I was at a hospital that allowed Moms to choose, and I loved it. I tried breastfeeding (switched to straight formula at a week; I should have trusted my instincts in the hospital), and they were supportive, but not pushy per se. I wanted the baby in the room, but by the second night, I was so glad she took him for a few hours. I needed rest and wasn’t getting it because I was so aware of him. I liked that choice without any guilt. They even politely kept reminding me that I could send him to the nursery because I didn’t really sleep the first night. Go with your gut. If you feel like it won’t be a fit, it probably won’t.
Post # 30
KatiePi : Your hospital sounds lovely :-). I do feel that this will not be a good fit, but at 26 weeks with twins and high risk, other practices I called that are affiliated with a different hospital will not take me at this point. Ugh.