(Closed) “Wives, Submit to your husbands”

posted 6 years ago in Christian
Post # 3
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Buzzing Beekeeper
  • Wedding: September 2012

That article is a fabulous way of looking at that verse, thank you for posting!  I am very happy to be submitting to my future husband, and sharing the decision-making responsibilities with him.  He’s trustworthy and I feel completely comfortable in doing so.  He would say we’re submitting to each other equally.

Post # 5
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Buzzing Beekeeper
  • Wedding: September 2012

@Steampunk Angel:  I especially liked the part that pointed out that sometimes men tend to leave the decision making to their wives, and this is a reminder to them to step up to that responsibility.  No one person should have to bear all the burdens, it is supposed to be a joint effort.  I think the word “submit” gets people upset, but evidently it wasn’t intended the way it sounds.  In other words, we’re not supposed to bow down to them, or anyone, but allow both to have an equal say.  I like that.

Post # 6
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: September 2012

I love it; I’ve always suspected it was about equality and mutual respect but couldn’t put my finger on how/why. The article fleshes out that interpretation out very well. Thanks for sharing.

Post # 7
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: January 2012

Ephesians 5 is my favorite Bible verse for a wedding!  I think it’s the perfect reflection on marriage and the purpose of marriage.  I posted this in a different thread, but it’s my very short reflection about this verse and why I’m comfortable with/love the wording (when I say subordinate, just read submit…):

People too often latch onto the word subordinate and immediately dismiss this teaching. But ultimately what is it that we are being asked to submit to? Read a little further and you’ll see, a man who is charged with the task of loving us as much as Christ loved the church…being willing to die for us! I dunno, I think we got the easier end of that deal πŸ™‚ not to mention only one verse up you see it first says “be subordinate to one another”

 

Post # 8
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: December 2011

Um, Ephesians 5:22 in the original Greek doesn’t even contain a verb. The verb is added in translation and is taken from 5:21 which contains a verb that means “submit to one another.”  

Post # 10
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: April 2014

@Steampunk Angel:  Thanks for posting this article! I’ve never really struggled with that verse, persae, but I do think this makes more sense.

Post # 13
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: December 2010

@Steampunk Angel:  I really love the article you posted! People tend to think I’m a walking contradiction as a Christian and a feminist. Now, instead of arguing with them, I’ll just show them this!

Post # 14
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Bumble Beekeeper
  • Wedding: March 2012 - Pelican Grand Beach Resort

My church, the United Methodust Church, does not include thispassage among recommended wedding readings for either traditional or modern services. My pastor said he never agrees to have it read at a wedding. I do read ancient Greek, but I do not have the GNT in front of me, so I can’t check the word it uses, but eregardless, “submission” in English has very specific connotationsI when used in the context of marriage and this author distorts the semantic range by pulling in meaning from other semantic ranges for “submission” without acknowledging the linguistic fact that these two rangesto not yet overlap like that. Further,ore, these words were said to people living under the Greek world’s institution of marriage, which was very limiting and restrictive on women.

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