Post # 62
@galloway111: I’m not sure. I’m not sure Walmart would want to fire him for making comments though. I don’t think he’s done anything that is against the employee code or anything. I know Walmart doesn’t publish an employee handbook specifically to avoid wrongful discrimination claims based around it, but I’m sure they’re smart enough not to fire him right away, even if they do choose to fire him. But if I were him, I would not want to publicly piss off my boss.
ETA: I’m not sure why I though he worked at Walmart… I’m not sure where he works, actually.
Post # 63
The only reason I like working holidays is for the Double Time and Half pay. I would rather work it and take the next day off and use that as our “holiday” then lose out on the awesome paycheck.
Post # 64
@SoupyCat: I think I had accidentally derailed things earlier because I used Wal-Mart’s profit margin as an example of companies profiting greatly but not creating jobs – or even decent wage jobs. Whoops! 🙂
Post # 65
@Genuine513: Yeah, the pay is nice, but I’m only getting 4 hours holday since I’m working the night of the holiday. Which is better than nothing, don’t get me wrong. I wanted to work Christmas Eve to get that nice check, but the other nurse’s aide got it so it’ll be mine next year.
Post # 66
@zagora: I think it was my fault first because I mentioned I work at Walmart, haha.
@SoupyCat: I don’t know what state he’s in or where he works, but in Wisconsin employers don’t need to give a reason when they fire someone. They can just do it if they don’t like the person or whatever. I know that’s not the case everywhere, but it is a lot of places. And I don’t think this guy would have any discrimination claims.
Post # 67
I can understand his disgruntledness. I worked retail at a mall and yes the hours do suck and yes you know that going in. But they are asking you to cut into your family time (my family doesn’t eat until 6) to get paid very little (i didn’t get holiday time) and no benefits to deal with awful people. I think a majority of black friday shoppers are terrible people that should be smacked. I seriously want to go to their place of employment and harass them because they seem to think it is ok to do to retail employees.
For every 1 nice customer there are 7 that are obnoxious and rude. So i make 8 bucks an hour to deal 50 self centered people coming at me for something that they are getting an OK deal on?
I think owners of these stores should be the ones to let the animals in the second they open the store. They should see the stampede up close.
It is what it is, but I cant blame him for being annoyed. He’s not going to go to corporate to complain, because you know he’d be fired, but he wants to voice his frustrations, so the radio looked like a good outlet to him.
Post # 68
When I worked in the hospitality industry you can bet I had to work Thanksgiving day and sometimes Christmas, although you usually got part of those days off. I honestly didn’t mind because it was double pay and you got free food.
Post # 69
On the other hand, this whole “you’re lucky to have a job at all” mentality has got to stop. Is this really what we’ve become? So accepting of our piss poor economy and job situation that you can’t complain about anything relating to your job because you’re lucky to even be working? I didn’t hear this story and I don’t know this guy… but I’d be interested to hear his job history. If he’d been working retail his whole life he’d probably be over it, which makes me think that perhaps he used to have a white collar job and is just doing this retail thing now because it is the only job he can find. And if thats the case, its really unfortunate.
I completely agree with the above statement. I can’t believe people don’t stand up more for employee rights. There should be dignity in employment and people should be able to complain abouttheir jobs without being castigated as ungrateful. The employer in not always right, if this were the case there would be no need for things like ‘minmum wage’ or state laws dictating maternity policies. These things come about because people who are not satisfied or perceive unfairness complain. It is a necessary check/balance of capitalism.
Post # 70
@plantains: So true. And sadly these rights are being eroded in states across the country. Two states tried to repeal child labor protection laws this year. TWO.
Post # 71
Working holidays does suck (I know from experience) – but this guy got into retail, so I’m not sure what he expected.
When I work holidays I don’t even get any extra pay since I’m part time :/ But luckily I’m only working 11p-7am Thanksgiving night and Christmas day 7a-3p this year.
Post # 72
I just want to throw my two cents in sorry if I am repeating anything any other posters have said so far, I didn’t read every post.
I have spent most of my life working in restaurants and never having weekends or holidays off. I have gotten used to it. I just started a career in nursing and I only have to work every third weekend and holiday and I couldn’t be happier!!
That being said, I have never really had an issue with working the holidays, my family is made up of police officers and healthcare workers and business owners, it comes with the territory. What does really bother me is when I am working on a holiday and I have an extremely rude customer, or a customer who tips poorly or not all all (merry ****ing christmas to you too!) So for consumers on holidays, please take into consideration the workers on the holidays and try to be extra nice to those serving you on the holidays.
Post # 73
@zagora: +1 on everything. Not that working on Thanksgiving is the worst thing that could ever happen to someone or anything, but the constant refrain of “Don’t complain, at least you have a job” is how working conditions get pushed down to the lowest common denominator. People getting together TO complain and to push back against unreasonable requests from management is crucial — and I’ll bet you anything that his store forbids unionization.
Long story short — I would dearly like to hear someone tell all the CEOs whining about the closing of corporate tax loopholes, etc, “Don’t complain — at least you have a job.”
Post # 74
I am planning on boycotting the midnight openings. Yes, Thanksgiving dinner might usually be over by 4 pm, but this man would like to sleep before his shift (as would I!) to maintain anity and stay awake during his shift. I think workers have every right to be mad. Also, not only does this inconvenience the works, but some of us consumers too. At least if stores open at 4 am, it gives you 6 hrs to rest before the madness begins. opening at 12 or sooner is just crazy
Post # 75
I had to raise an eyebrow a bit when this guy said going to work at 10 PM that night means he’ll have to sleep through Thanksgiving. Unless you’ve become accustomed to a screwy graveyard schedule, there’s no way you’re just going to go to bed one day at 2 PM and sleep for 6 or 7 hours straight. Just not gonna happen. Even people who do work nights have trouble sleeping during the day sometimes. He may as well go to Thanksgiving dinner as planned and take a little post-dinner nap before heading in to work. That’s not to say he won’t be tired that night, but you can’t convince me this guy is going to miss Thanksgiving entirely because he’ll be getting a full 8 hours of sleep before going to work.
I won’t comment on whether he should be thankful to have a job or whether it’s right for businesses to turn a profit. I will say I think Black Friday is slightly psychotic, but it is what it is, and you can bet I go shopping and benefit from the sales. On some level do I think it sucks having to work on holidays? Of course, but someone has to do it, and this guy can’t claim to be surprised by it after having worked retail for a few years. And it’s not just retail – there are a lot of professions that just can’t come to a screeching halt because all the employees want to spend holiday time with their families.
This guy is also making a really big deal out of the fact that he proposed to his girlfriend a year ago on Thanksgiving. Can I just be the first one to come out and say, “Big whoop”? I’m working on the one-year “anniversary” of my proposal.
Post # 76
I just want to take this opportunity to say if you are going shopping on Black Friday (or, especially, on Thanksgiving), please be extra nice to the employees. As made obvious by this thread, no one likes to work holidays, even if their profession does require it. Being away from your family and stuck at work is just made worse when you have to deal with rude patrons. I’m working 5a-6p on Black Friday and you won’t hear me complain about it, but it sure would be nice if my customers would appreciate the sacrifice that I am making so that they can save a few dollars. The long lines at the mall are frustrating, but don’t even think about taking it out on the cashier/salesperson/etc.
*steps off soap box*