(Closed) Working on the holidays. Would you be this disgruntled?

posted 8 years ago in Career
Post # 107
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Busy Beekeeper

@village_skeptic: but to say that the current global economic situation is the result of a bunch of really terrible decisions mostly made by people who are a bit more powerful than “bad hours guy” and “can’t get a job people” isn’t too far off the map, IMO. This is not to discount the role of personal responsibility, but it is to point out that not all of us make our decisions with the same types of option.

ITA! But this has been brewing for years. Black Friday is nothing new. Just cause the shops are open doesn’t mean you have to shop. But people line up in droves for that insanity. I never have. Why aren’t more consumers not making a stand to boycott shopping that day? Yes there is corporate greed, but its also individual greed. A few years ago a man died out in Long island a Wal-mart, trampled to dealth. I really thought that it would be wake up call to people but no, Black Friday early morning madness continues.

So what can we do as a society to reign this back in? There are many of us who vote buy not spending our dollars on that day, but clearly we are being out voted by every single person who shops on that day. And as I stated I’m now working a retail gig (I don’t have my schedule yet) but i’m pretty sure I’ll be on the floor deal with this. So currently I’m a cog in the wheel. But in the years past I was anti-Black Friday and rarely shopped post Christmas as well.

Post # 108
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Busy Beekeeper

@KristenGotMarried: ITA with your last post. A job is just that. For surival to pay the bills, to get by. A career is ideally what your blessed with when its your passion. Most people work jobs.  This economy is making it more apparent, true, but this has  always been the reality throughout industrialized history.

I’m not saying that I completely agree with how things are or that it doesn’t need to change, but in case posted by the OP I think the gentleman has every right to complain but he’s misguided. Retail follows customer demand.

Post # 109
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: April 2010

@hisgoosiegirl: haha What a pleasant thought while I’m eating lunch. (poop being tested) 🙂  Yep, and I just thought of plumbers, electricians, all the media (tv and radio and newspapers). Wow, there are so many professions that need to work on holidays!

Post # 110
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Bumble bee

@KristenGotMarried: What if that second job ended up being another retail job? Still not making the situation better. The only jobs that are seriously out there are retail.

 She’s not complaining to you about it. You don’t know that the owner of that store isn’t stressing and venting about  the state of business at her store. Whose to say people that work retail and venting aren’t trying to do something about it?

I don’t understand why people that work retail can’t complain about their job, but everyone else can because they are just “venting”.  Even though I have never had a desk job, I understand why people might vent about it. I’m not going to say “OH well at least you have a job and you get to sit all day and get a decent paycheck and benefits. That’s pretty cushy, so suck it up.”

The guy called up a radio station. Morning shows aren’t that serious, so what is the big deal if he vented about his job?

 Maybe everyone should work on holidays. I’m sure the companies that alot of you work for would prefer to stay open to get business done while the CEO’s sit home and relax. I bet no one would be up in arms over that, since this guy shouldn’t be complaining about having to work at 10pm on Thanksgiving.

 

Post # 111
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Buzzing bee
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@galloway111 & @CaitMarae – I totally get what you are saying.  I KNOW there are a lot of people that would be happy to have any job.  I agree.  HOWEVER, I also agree that having a job shouldn’t force people to just shut up and take it.  If everyone had a job (i.e. – we weren’t in a recession) would it be ok for him to rant then?  I just don’t like THAT argument.  Say “he knew what working in retail would be like” or “he’s been working there 5 years so why complain now” and I’d be 100% in agreement with you.  But say “at least he has a job so he should shut up” and I have a problem with it.  A lot of people have jobs whose employers are abusing the fact that we’re in a recession and employees are scared to lose their jobs.

Post # 112
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Buzzing bee

@blingybride:  How did all those wonderful benefits work out for Greece?  I’m Greek and I’m embarrassed!  The country is FALLING APART because the people there are so unwilling to work and take responsibility for themselves.  They would rather let the entire country collapse than increase their retirement age. 

Post # 113
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: July 2012

@zagora:

Yes, my point exactly.  The U.S. unemployment rate is over 9%, and yet the income gap is the largest it’s ever been.  The truth is that large corporations* are making out like bandits while people in my neighborhood are losing their house to foreclosure.

This goes back to my point earlier – I think there’s an overall sense of frustration that our laws (like tax breaks for corporations) have produced an economy that works only for CEOs and mega-millionaires.  

Everyday people have tightened their belts repeatedly and given concession after concession on the job.  But the profitable companies won’t ever stop – they keep making more and more demands despite very healthy profit margins.  And they have the political power to force us to concede.

Economists say American corporations have an abundance of cash on hand – they just refuse to create jobs and reinvest in the American economy.  The only way they’ll stop is if we get fed and and say enough is enough.  And we need the media’s help to push back.

So for this guy to be ticked about working a minimum wage job on Thanksgiving when his employer is raking it in?  Yeah, I get it.  At least he should be well-paid for that sacrifice.  Our frustration should be aimed at the large corporations that are hording profits and not creating good jobs.

*Small businesses, however, aren’t doing as hot – because they rely upon people spending money, which is hard to do if they’re barely getting by.

THIS is exactly how I feel and couldn’t have said it better myself.  I get that we should all be “good little slaves” and be “grateful” for the little we get.  But perhaps if more people like this guy opened their mouths there would be change in our work culture.

Post # 114
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Buzzing Beekeeper
  • Wedding: October 2012

@Jenn23: FI is a plumber and if he had to go out on an emergency call, he’d get almost triple the money for doing so.

Post # 115
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@Rouquine: Triple the pay-not bad! I’d actually be tempted to work next week on Thanksgiving if I received triple the pay. 🙂  (My company is closed, but if they offered 3x the pay to people who did come to work, I may do it!)

Post # 116
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Buzzing Beekeeper
  • Wedding: October 2012

@Jenn23: It’s definitely nice.  He told me a story where someone he knew had to miss his entire Christmas night with his family (dinner and all) because of an emergency.  The people didn’t treat him so nicely though.  Didn’t offer anything to drink, eat, etc.  They just shoved him out the door with no tip either.  Those are the people you don’t want to encounter.  So much for the holiday spirit!

Post # 117
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: June 2012

@Jenn23: I would volunteer to work every holiday for triple pay, lol.

Post # 118
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: April 2010

@Rouquine: That’s horrible that those people were so nasty, especially on Christmas night. If somebody had to come to my house on Christmas night (like a plumbing emergency) I’d give them cookies and offer them a drink (not sure if they should be drinking on the job, though. LOL).

 

@galloway111: I bet many people would! 🙂

Post # 119
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Buzzing Beekeeper
  • Wedding: October 2012

@galloway111: It’s the only reason Fiance doesn’t mind it.  

Post # 120
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: January 2011

@MissCallieJean: Do you wonder how everyone’s opinion would change if it were THEM working on Thanksgiving? Me thinks it may be a different tune….

Post # 121
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: May 2012

Some follow-up news!

Target Corp. received six red-and-white Target bags full of petitions Monday signed by 190,000 people to protest stores opening for “Black Friday” sales at midnight, the morning after Thanksgiving.

The petitions, delivered by Target employee Seth Coleman to a representative at the retailer’s Minneapolis headquarters, were the result of an effort started by Anthony Hardwick, an Omaha, Nebraska employee who said the store’s decision to advance its “Black Friday” opening time interfered with family gatherings.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/11/21/us-target-thanksgiving-protest-idUSTRE7AK24S20111121

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