Post # 77
I understand and to an extent agree with your preference for natural gems, but I think the fact that you insist upon incorrectly referring to lab-made stones as “fake” is what others are finding inflammatory. No, lab created stones are not natural
, but they are real
in the sense that a lab created sapphire is indeed corundum. It is a sapphire. A fake sapphire would be something like blue glass or a blue CZ. You already know this, though, because it has been explained to you ad nauseum by many people. You also once disputed the fact that a cultured pearl is a real pearl formed by nacre inside of an oyster and repeatedly and purposefully insulted another Bee’s pearl necklace by calling it fake. I feel that if a world-class gemologist were to confirm to you the facts about lab created stones and cultured pearls, you would still believe them to be fake because you seemingly have your own definition of what fake is, or what fake means to you.
I honestly do not care if in your mind you BELIEVE that lab-created stones are all fakes. That’s not what bothers me at all and by all means you are entitled to an opinion. I myself prefer natural over lab created in general!
What has bothered me – and what I believe may have bothered others – about your interactions is the way you seem to talk down to others about their choices and insist on throwing the word “fake” around despite how many people have told you that it’s insulting to them.
Post # 78
Technically “fake” means BOTH “simulant” and “artificial” (synthetic). Either use would be accurate, but it’s obviously a highly emotionally loaded term on the bee, which is why I have switched to trying to use the words “simulant” and “synthetic” here instead.
Post # 79
The thing here is that what the OP is really asking is how many of you chose your moissanite because you couldn’t afford a diamond. Plain and simple I think that’s what most of these polls come down to. There’s really no point beating around the bush. Why not have the appropriate poll options?
-I chose moissanite but if all things were equal would choose diamond
-I chose moissanite and if all things were equal I would still choose moissanite
-I chose diamond and if all things were equal I would still choose diamond
-I chose diamond but if all things were equal I would choose moissanite
Honestly, I’m pretty sure that’s what most of these threads want to know. Because there are so many who say they don’t choose moissanite for financial reasons, but then this poll shows otherwise. It really doesn’t freaking matter who chose what and why, but if we’re going to rehash this topic regularly, why not do it in a way that will actually answer the question. Maybe then we will stop repeating this ridiculous cycle!
Post # 80
true. there have been a rash of these lately. I’m sick right now so i’ll respond to any thread no matter how redundant!
My opinions have nothing to do with others choices, just mine. I think non-natural stones are fake. fake only has four letters. you’ll see me use this word again. I really won’t live my life trying to avoid offending people. some people are just too sensitive.
Post # 81
as far as i know, i haven’t seen a moissanite in person. that being said, i didn’t choose a diamond because of its value (i actually think they are over valued). i chose it because i like the sparkle of the stone. it’s possible if i saw a moissanite in person, i might choose that because i like sparkle but everyone keeps saying the sparkle is different than a diamond. i would need to see it to decide.
Post # 82
I think you hit the heart of why I asked the question. Yes if the prestige of the diamond was taken away, would you still choose a diamond? If diamonds where the price of what a Moissy as it is now would one still chose it?
I guess the prior thread about this subject got me thinking about this. And I didn’t want to comment on that thread because it got really heated. But it did make me question myself if my preference for a diamond was solely becasue I love the stone or did marketing also play a role subconsciously?
Post # 84
I would choose moissanite! I LOVE the fire. My ultimate dream is the Amora Gem. Harder, whiter, brighter, what’s not to love?
No one is stopping you from having opinions. But grown up’s can’t really expect to throw the word “fake” around on the ring boards and be surprised when people react. 😉 It’s not even the first time it’s happened, did you truly expect anything less?
Post # 85
I would have to choose a diamond. Everyone has different tastes, and I don’t think mossy rings are any less beautiful, but I have never seen one in person. My issue with mossy rings is that they’re trying to look like diamonds. Like sapphires, emeralds, pearls, anyother stone have their own distinct look, and they really suit some people’s taste. But mossys are trying to look like diamonds, they’re just for people who dont want to spend thousands on a diamond. I’m not trying to hurt anyone’s feelings, but if cost isn’t an issue, I don’t really understand why anyone would want a mossy….unless they do have a distinct look about them, like I said, I’ve never seen one in person. I hope I don’t offend anyone, that’s not my intention.
Post # 86
yes, I expected less. I don’t go around getting offended when people feel differently so I never know what that type is going to do.
Post # 87
I see. It’s refreshing that at least you admit to really not caring about hurting other people’s feelings. Keep on trucking, then.
Post # 88
very true but you forgot,
-I like color so I’d choose another option! hehe
Post # 89
Aren’t most moissanites lab-created? Doesn’t lab-created mean synthetic?
Would it make everyone feel better if the word synthetic were used in lieu of fake? I pretty much feel both words are interchangeable….
I did Google it, some people DO consider Moissanite to be a “fake diamond” and some people say its a gem in its own right.
I guess it doesn’t matter either way….though it seems rather silly to be arguing semantics like this.
Just seems silly that people can get cosmetic surgery and say proudly they have fake tits, but use the word fake on this board and people get out their pitchforks!! I mean…it’s just words, people. Rock your ring, it’s no big thing.
Post # 90
if your feelings are easily hurt by the personal opinions of others that are not directed towards you, that is a you problem and not a me problem
Post # 91
Yeah, I get it. I’m incredibly difficult to offend as well. But as an adult with 952 posts on this board, I guess I would have expected you to know your audience better. Throwing an inflammatory term like “fake” around WILL start an argument, we see it all the damn time. 😉 All I’m saying is, by all means continue to say it, just don’t get surprised when people react. That’s all!