Would you get a lab diamond?

posted 2 years ago in Rings
  • poll: Would you get a lab diamond?
    Yes : (105 votes)
    65 %
    No : (56 votes)
    35 %
    Other, please explain : (1 votes)
    1 %
  • Post # 46
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    290 posts
    Helper bee
    • Wedding: May 2012

    I would get a moissanite if I wanted one. I don’t care about the stigma attached to it. Although I feel it should be referred to as a diamond simulant. Naturally occurring moissanite is dark, with a different crystal structure. If it were cut from actual, naturally occurring rough, it would look nothing like a diamond. It’s produced, treated to be the color of diamond, cut to mimic diamond cuts and marketed as a ‘better than diamond’ alternative. To me, that’s a simulant. That said, I love moissanite and am on the cusp of making my first moissy purchase, an AVC Amora from GoG. 

    I would most likely not not get an actual lab diamond- why? – the sizes are limited and the savings between a lab and mined diamonds are minuscule. 

    Post # 47
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    634 posts
    Busy bee
    • Wedding: September 2018

    My fiancé laughed at me because I told him to remember this rhyme when picking out my ring… “if it don’t come from the ground, don’t bring it around.” Lol

    I didn’t like the idea of diamond conflict/exploitation or strip-mining for gold and platinum, so we went with an antique diamond and sapphire ring, which I love.

    I think the issues with early CZs getting cloudy and yellow probably put a lot of people off of man made diamonds and diamonds simulents forever. Moissys turning green and getting rainbow oil stains is not helping erase that legacy. 

    Lab diamonds will need a lot of marketing to get out from underneath that. Price will have a lot of influence too. 

     I would wear a lab diamond or moissy for the right price as a pendant or in earrings, just not for a wedding ring. 

    Post # 48
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    33 posts
    Newbee
    • Wedding: August 2016

    I’m definitely the minority here, but when we were learning about rings, my husband and I went in to the Brilliant Earth showroom to see some emerald cut diamonds in person and learn more about them. While we were there, the salesperson pulled out 4 or 5 loose emerald cut diamonds…all different ratings, (nothing below a G/VS), and lined them up side by side and asked our thoughts. We were even able to take them over to the window and see them in more natural light. It was essentially a blind “taste test” to see what ratings we naturally gravitate to. It was a very cool experience if anyone is able to actually go in to one of their showrooms.

    Our first reaction was that there was one diamond neither of us liked at all. It was hard to say what made it different, but it just felt a little more flat and lifeless than the others, and it looked like it was dead clear, almost like a really polished piece of plastic. It turns out, that was a lab diamond that she had mixed in, just to see if we could tell.

    In the end, I gravitated toward the G (I’ll be honest, it was the biggest one there so it was hard not to be biased), while my husband liked a smaller D/vvs1 (he said it just felt more sharp and crisp than the others and he couldn’t say exactly why). The sales lady told us the stats of each diamond at the end and basically said we happen to be very color sensitive (my husband especially) and that most people wouldn’t have noticed some of the things we did. In the end, my husband wound up getting my ring made somewhere else, so this was purely a learning experience for us.

    Long story short…I understand that the chemical composition should be exactly the same and logically there should be no difference, but from my own personal experience, I feel that a blind test like that doesn’t lie. I’m sure there are people who would love the crystal clear look of the lab diamond, but we could both instantly tell which diamond didn’t fit (we just didn’t know why until she told us). Given the choice I would choose a natural mined diamond.

    If you ever have the chance to go look at some loose stones in person…definitely do it! it’s a very fun and unique experience. 

    Post # 49
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    134 posts
    Blushing bee
    • Wedding: August 2017

    I’m a go big or go home kind of girl. Either a natural diamond or we can just dispense with the pretence and get a nice cheap crystal or zirconia 

    Post # 50
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    789 posts
    Busy bee

    I own moissanite & will continue to purchase moissanite over diamond. However, if moissanite wasn’t an option I absolutely would buy lab created diamonds. I just cannot justify spending the money on a natural diamond when there is a cheaper product that I like just as much. I’m like this in all other aspects of spending too & will not buy something if there is a better deal on something I consider equal quality. 

    Post # 51
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    2260 posts
    Buzzing bee

    I wouldn’t buy a lab-created diamond. 

    I don’t care if they’re the same material or if lab-created diamonds and gems cost less. The reason why they’re so beautiful and interesting is because of how they’re formed and how long they take to form. That’s why they’re such a big deal. 

    A regular rock is preferable to a lab-created diamond, to me. It was formed in a way that the lab-created diamond can’t hold a candle to. 

    Post # 52
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    482 posts
    Helper bee

    FutureDrAtkins :  I wouldn’t get a lab diamond because they’re still rather expensive and I do love the beauty of moissanite. However, it amuses me how many are saying that they wouldn’t purchase lab diamonds because “they aren’t natural.” Carbon is carbon, both are natural elements from Earth, and the final product is the same. I’m thinking that the lab diamonds might even be better than some of the lower grade diamonds since they are created in a controlled environment.

    Post # 53
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    323 posts
    Helper bee

    Leaving moissanite completely out of the picture, sure I would. As I’ve mentioned before, I have a preference for lab created gems and stones in general. I always purchase them before earth made bc I like my stones as flawless/clear as possible…can’t stand inclusions and stuff like that. Plus the color saturation is usually so much better even though that doesn’t really apply to diamonds.

    As a side thought, I’m always curious of what people think of pearls bc most pearls these days used for jewelry are cultured…like 99%. Naturally occurring pearls are extremely rare so there are pearl farms in which man plants the irritant inside the oyster/mollusk to produce the pearl. And of course the oysters and mollusks die after the pearls are harvested or during from the trauma. I don’t buy the saltwater pearls bc it’s almost all beaded nucleus and very little nacre(the pearly layer) which means they are extra vulnerable.

    Post # 55
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    787 posts
    Busy bee
    • Wedding: October 2016 - Wedgewood Las Vegas

    quantumleap48 :  I think, for people like me who prefer naturally made stones, it’s not about whether ‘carbon is carbon’. I think we totally get that chemically and structurally they are the same. However, naturally made stones have variances that add to their beauty or uniqueness. These variances aren’t typically recreated in the lab. I think lab stones can be ‘too perfect’ in my oppinion.

    jewels84 :  I love pearls too! They are my only exception for my ‘natural over lab/man created’ preferences. I have had pearls that were farmed, and pearls that were lab created, and the lab created set is nowhere near as durable. I no longer wear them as the pearls are peeling and degrading, even after being careful and wearing only for special occasions. I assume my other pearls are farmed/seeded, as I have no proof that are 100% natural (and knowing my budget, they can’t possibly be 100% natural). Although I do prefer the irregular or odd shaped pearls over the perfectly matched ones because I like the uniqueness of them.

    Post # 56
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    107 posts
    Blushing bee
    • Wedding: June 2018

    I’m really shit at trying to interpret thoughts into words.

    My point was that if you like the look of natural diamonds but still have issues with child labor than lab created diamonds, CZ or Moissanite would be a better choice. Or that if you wanted to have something natural that there are other stones out there that perfectly natural and don’t exploit children in the mining of them. 

    I have mined gemstones for years and I can appriciate the draw of the natural. Pulling something so beautiful from the earth with your own two hands is amazing. Having it cleaned and cut and seeing it go from raw form to a piece of wearable jewelry is wonderful. There are so many mines where you can go dig your own stones (especially here in the US) and you could mine it, clean it, cut it and have it set all for much cheaper than buying a natural diamond. Perception is reality and so long as people buy into the marketing scheme that diamonds are the “best”  than it will remain so.

    But…WHY is natural diamond considered the best? They are actually horrible investment as retail diamond jewelry is typically priced with a 100 – 200% markup. They do not appriciate in value. So aside from the hardness value that makes it the best for industrial uses what is their draw? There are stones with better refractive index so more brilliance and more dispersion so better fire. Hell, there are stones that will literally heal themselves when injured in order to keep growing! Which is pretty damn cool in my book. So why other than the De Beers family touting them as a status symbol are they worth so much? 

    It seems like the running of the lemmings when it comes to diamonds. Surely people are more unique than is shown by the 80 – 90% of women who get diamonds for engagement jewelry? I’m honestly curious as I don’t understand.

    Post # 57
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    744 posts
    Busy bee

    One of the things that’s so cool about lab diamonds is that they all ARE unique! Lab diamonds come in a variety of cuts with a variety of flaws. No two lab diamonds are the same – just like real ones!

    Post # 58
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    233 posts
    Helper bee
    • Wedding: September 2017

    No, I wouldn’t. That’s specifically because my whole fascination with gemstones is based on this very shiny, fascinating thing coming  out of the ground. I am consistent in that appreciation as evidenced by my purchasing a ridiculously priced blue topaz because it had absolutely no treatment (very rare) and preferring spinel over sapphire because they are almost never treated (whereas the more expensive and more coveted sapphire almost always is).

    Post # 59
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    2458 posts
    Buzzing bee

    I like natural things – like others, I think the natural formation of gemstones over millions of years is pretty incredible and special. Something produced in a lab is not the same to me, even if it is chemically the same. For this reason, I’d prefer a less valubale natural stone like white sapphire or clear quartz (“herkimer diamond”) over a lab diamond/moissy. 

    Post # 60
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    2750 posts
    Sugar bee
    • Wedding: May 2007

    AnonBee2019 :  Yeah, I was about to comment something similar. I think some people are confused about lab diamonds because of the sellers that sell flawless CZ and call them “lab diamonds”. Lab grown diamonds are def not always flawless, like most lab gemstones are. Mine is a H SI1. 

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