Would you get the flu shot when you find out your pregnant?

posted 2 years ago in Pregnancy
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  • Post # 61
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    Sugar bee
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    starfish0116 :  Fascinating. I always get a flu shot and haven’t ever had the flu (that I know of-despite having some really horrible colds I’ve never been tested for it so don’t know for sure). One of my co-workers had the flu last winter. She hadn’t gotten the flu shot but she sure did this year.

    Post # 62
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    Alyx19 :  I agree Alyx…

    And people swear that it’s scientific research. Do you know HOW MANY TIMES ‘research backed science’ has been wrong. One year, scientific research shows that something is good for you. Then, they find out two years later that they were wrong. You can find research to support anything.

    However, I dont think the flu shot is inherently bad and believe that the very young and the very old can possibly benefit.

    Post # 63
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    butterfly67 :  I’m curious how you came to form your “belief”about the flu shot? My baby got his flu shot when he was six months old. Before that, I would hope other people would be vaccinated to avoid giving him diseases that he was too young to be vaccinated against. Keep in mind that if you think vaccines are beneficial for the very old and the very young, that means that healthy people with healthy immune systems (like me) should get vaccinated.

    Post # 64
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    Alyx19 :  

    They reformulate because there is more than one strain of the flu. They try to predict which one will be the most prevalent based on data and they base the vaccine on that prediction.

    I believe they will eventually have a vaccine that works for all of the flu strains.

    That’s why you have to get it every year.

    And I really laugh at the “money making scheme” belief, companies make money from you being SICK, not from staying healthy.

    You know who was in it for the money? That guy who said the MMR (I think that’s the one it was, bees correct me if it wasn’t) caused autism. Dude was developing his own vaccine that wouldn’t cause autism so people would use his vaccine instead of the current one. Except… he was a fraud and he lost his medical license for it.

    But the damage was already done and my god is that damage long lasting.

    Post # 65
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    Bumble bee

    You don’t get sick from the flu vaccine. You experience your immune system when you get the flu vaccine, and your immune system is unpleasant. 

    There are 2 dual parts to your immune system. The simpler, faster, less sophisticated part is the one you associare with infection. It’s your runny nose. Your fever. It’s a one size fits all response that activates for colds, the flus, and the antigens in the vaccine. Your immune system is overreacting and it sucks. 

    The more sophisticated part is tailored. That’s antibodies from white blood cells. It takes time, and sometimes doesn’t work in time (see, all the people who die from infections). The vaccine teacher this part which antibodies to make, so that next time it’s faster. You don’t feel this part. 

     

    Post # 66
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    MrsAKSkier :  I have nothing against the flu shot. But, I dont completely trust the data on how much it prevents the flu. According to research, this year’s flu is ONLY 10% effective. So, is it better than nothing? Probably. But, I also know at least 3 people who got super sick after taking it. So my opinion is, people who are most vulnerable (especially kids and older people) immune wise should take it because it ‘usually’ is better than nothing. But, for myself, I trust eating right, exercising, and washing my hands way better. And, I also don’t trust medicine in general…everything has TONSSSS of side effects and a vaccine they create for a different strain each year, imo, is no different. And, my reference about science stands. ‘Science’ will stand by something this year and not do the same next year. Remember when they thought the world was flat? Yeah…in most aspects of science, it’s like that in my opinion and ‘belief’ which I believe we all present when we comment in a forum.

     

    Post # 67
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    It is interesting to me that the people who don’t get vaccinated claim they never get sick from vaccine-preventable illnesses. It’s called “herd immunity”. You are protected because the people around you are getting vaccinated. If everyone stopped getting vaccines we would again exerience thousands and thousands of additional deaths a year. I work with health departments and have seen health departments draining their resources to fight, for example, a potentially-deadly measles outbreak at the one school where all the anti-vaxxers sent their kids. 

    Post # 68
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    butterfly67 :  

    You don’t trust scientific data but you trust the data that says it’s only 10% effective?

    I know it sounds snarky but I’m wondering if you notice your inconsistency, you trusting the 10% number but not trusting science or medicine in general just points to confirmation bias on your part.

    Post # 69
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    butterfly67 :  Hi, someone who works in scientific research here.

    The reason research is often “wrong” is because the science is moving so fast that what is true today could be totally different next week. Just like 70 – 80 years ago people thought cigarettes were good for you and smoking was encouraged, now of course we know the dangers of smoking. But the reason we know that is because science advanced, research methods became more advanced. So yeah, in two years, the science will be entirely different. 

    Not to be condescending but you don’t understand research as much as you think you do. When you don’t understand something of course you don’t trust it, that’s logical for any human. It would be like if I started talking about how to take a spleen out to a bunch of doctors only citing stuff I read online and from people in FB comment secretions. 

    Post # 70
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    wasabipea :  

    I once saw someone refer to polio as a harmless childhood illness.

    My theory is that we have been so far removed from the times where those illnesses killed people regularly that people today don’t know how dangerous they are.

    Why do we constantly have to repeat history and have these illnesses come back just to prove that indeed, they are dangerous, and should be prevented.

    Post # 71
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    Sansa85 :  lol…no, I dont think you came across as snarky at all.  I am not saying I dont 100% trust scientific data. What I am saying is that I don’t always trust that it’s consistent and true. Everyone trusts some form of data but I choose what I believe based on my PERSONAL research and experiences many times.  I try to do the research MYSELF from TRUSTED data (so I do trust data of some kind) from sources I believe are trustworthy over time. My girlfriend went on medication for diabetes that her doctor SWORE was essential and it almost ended up killing her.  It doesnt mean I dont trust doctors. In fact, mine is fantastic. But, I am not sheep and make my own decisions as well based on what I read and investigate. So yes, I am skeptical of a lot of science because it changes soooooooooooooooo often. And if even SCIENCE says that the vaccine this year is only 10% effective, then logic would make me conclude that it damn sure isn’t THAT effective overall.

    Post # 72
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    Busy bee

    I will knock on wood till it turns to dust but… 29 and never gotten the flu or the shot. While everyone around me gets the shot and consistently fall ill with it. Including family and roommates. I guess I will figure out what I want when I plan to start trying.

    I get that the shots are supposed to be dead but it is odd that people ALWAYS get some strain of it suddenly after the shot itself. 

    Post # 73
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    butterfly67 :  The “belief” that the earth was flat was a belief. It was not science, it was just a belief that was obviously not backed up by research. Opinions and beliefs are very different from scientific facts. You are free to believe whatever you like and have opinions about whatever you like, of course. But science is how we know that washing your hands helps prevent the spread of diseases (Germ Theory). Washing your hands, like vaccines, helps protect both yourself AND others. I frequently wash my hands, exercise, and eat healthy foods as well. AND I get myself and my children vaccinated. It’s fine if you choose to forego medication, but I’m curious how that would worksout for you if, say, your appendix ruptured…

    Post # 74
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    slomotion :  Actually your post proved my point. And I never said science and research is not valuable and can be true. But it changes and sometimes it regresses. Something is bad for you today is not proven to be that bad tomorrow for example. It’s a fact. So, I question now how well you read my post. And as I said before, I never said the flu shot was invaluable and not a good thing.

    I dont have to FULLY UNDERSTAND research in all aspects to be able to use my cognitive abilities to try to understand as much as I can for what affects me so I am not sure what your point is there. It is my body, my life and it is my responsibility to research what is right for ME. But oh, I forgot, I have to fully understand research in all aspects in order to do that….smh

    Post # 75
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    itsachickenwingthing :  I’m going to go out on a limb here and say that getting a flu vaccine just MIGHT be more effective at preventing the spread of the flu than knocking on wood…

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