Post # 76
j_jaye I feel this is putting to much emphasis on a stone that is such a small part of life.
Bridey77 Thats the thing I guess. Diamonds have been the ‘thing’ for quite some time now. I don’t know if they are loosing their prestige in our society. This may be the very reason some people have very strong opinions about ‘lying’ about the type of stone it is or is not. Maybe it is the prestige that people want to protect more than anything else. Maybe the prestige is that unsaid thing indivduals pay for when they buy a diamond.
Taiki You bring up an interesting side to alternative white stones to consider.
Bridey77 Some people enjoy blunt people and some do not.
dulcevida I think you may have been meaning to address this to someone else because the questions you have don’t match where I am coming from. But, I will answer anyway… No, I’m not worried someone will think a large mossy is prettier than my diamond or anyone elses. And no I’m not worried someones mossy will get more compliments than what I have. When people compliment my ring I just say think you and thats it. I never go into price, cut, etc. And I don’t think other er owners should feel a need to do so.
MissLibra Since you bring up bags… I do from time to time rock a fake bag. Why? Because I like the design and I think it looks cool. Do I think that makes me a fake person like I’m lying to the world? No, quite the contrary. I honestly think I’m that much cooler for rocking a fake bag that I think looks equally as cool as the real bag for a fraction of the cost. Then you have to the question – would I be willing to pay for a real LV bag. My answer is no I would not. I would rather spend my money on travel or jewelry but thats just me. Why not just get a nice leather bag instead of a knock off? Because I like the way the knock off looks and I don’t want a plain leather bag.
TheSpecial See thats my problem… I don’t ever feel guilty. Like I can eat a whole cake and still eat dinner and it does not phase me one bit.
Post # 77
I think its weird to care if a stone is a diamond or a cz. It doesn’t change the meaning behind the ring and that’s what’s important.
Post # 78
Yeah I just reread my comment and I definitely meant to respond to someone else lol. You and I seem to have pretty similar ideas about sharing personal information. Sorry about the misunderstanding.
Post # 79
But that also assumes that the person giving the compliment must have been tricked/deluded. I frequently compliment people on their clothes, jewellery, or appearance. When I do so, I make no assumptions believe it or not: so if I compliment someone’s ring I never assume it is real diamond/sapphire/ruby/whatever; likewise if someone has nice clothes I make no assumption as to cost. So if they then went into a long explanation about what stone/brand the item in question was, and how much it cost, I would find it bizarre; I would feel they lacked grace and would feel a bit uncomfortable.
It’s a bit like when you say ‘Your dress is lovely!’ and someone laughs and says ‘What, this old thing?’. It just comes across as awkward to me, and somehow also seems to undermine the compliment and the person paying it. For that reason, for me personally the only acceptable response to a straight-forward compliment is ‘thank you’ and a smile.
As I said, if someone complimented my ‘diamond ring’ and it was CZ I would set them straight; similarly I have had people ask what stones my jewellery is on rare occasions and I have no problem sharing that information with them. But I wouldn’t jump in with details if someone just paid me a simple compliment as I don’t know, I find it kind of rude and unnecessary, for the reasons above.
Post # 80
My personally: I would never.
I said in the other thread and will say again here: lies are toxic- they create shame, anxiety, and fear. Not to mention you can be outed quite easily and look like a complete fool.
I don’t wear fake bags, I don’t wear knock off designs (including my ring setting) I don’t even shop fast fashion/urban outfitters because they relentlessly rip off designers. If I want the real deal- I make it happen, and if I can’t afford it I get over it.
But a repeated lie would really make me feel ashamed of myself, and with good reason. So no, I would not pretend a stone is anything other thAn what it is.
Post # 81
Lol… Don’t worry about it.
Post # 82
It’s sad that so many people on here worry about the “authenticity” of other people’s material goods. There are way more important things in life to clutch pearls over.
Post # 83
Personally, I just don’t think it’s that much of anyone else’s business what my center stone is made of. Is the stone a size that we could afford in a diamond? Yes. That said, we had our reasons for choosing an alternative stone and we are happy with that decision. I don’t feel like I need to justify the choice, or educate anyone (who likely has preconceived notions about diamonds, engagement, etc.) about our chosen alternative.
Post # 84
I am getting a moissy. I tell pretty much every one, except one of my “friends.” I just haven’t brought it up and will let them think whatever the hell they want to think. They already told me I was crazy for wanting a ring sooooo expensive, so if they want to think he spent 10k+, then go right ahead. I know they would think that they are better than me because she has a “real” ring… but she lied about her ring so she can fuck off. She said that the diamond is the diamond her late dad proposed to her mom with, but in reality her SO and mom sold her mom’s diamond so her SO could afford her ring. She purposely went out of her way to tell people that her diamond was her mom’s. That pisses me off more than someone not correcting someone who says they have a pretty ring.
When a stranger tells me I have a pretty ring, I will simply respond with “thank you”. When they tell me I have a pretty diamond ring I will tell them “thank you, it’s actually a moissy. I think the diamond industry is bullshit” and that will be that.
Post # 85
Yes. I love how people are always saying people will know because of the financial situation. As long as the center stone size is something that you could afford in a diamond if you saved for a few months based on your stereotypical job salary (I say this because no one truly knows what other people make), who in the world is going to “know” it’s unaffordable?
I’m not friends with catty people who would make such judgments, but it seems a lot of Bees are that way.
Post # 86
Exactly! I know my friends and family could care less and I hardly feel the need to tell every colleague. Most of the people who compliment my ring are strangers or those I meet in passing since it is old news to my inner circle. I like nice things, but I like a bargain and everyone I know is well aware of that.
Post # 87
If you are going to tell everyone your hair is white but you dye it brown, why not leave it white? Apparently it doesn’t bother you to have people know anyway, sooo.
Or why tell people that it’s not your “real face”? You’re not being honest you’re humblebragging. Like “Yea, this isn’t my real face because I can afford to have the work done and look AMAZEBALLS!”
Post # 88
In regards to this subject, I think it should be up to the bee. I’m with you though, I’ve never heard anyone ask someone if their diamond was real.
Post # 89
I’ve only read two pages of the thread so far but I want to add this. Passing a ring off as a diamong doesnt mean that when someone says “nice ring” you have to go into an explaination of the stone.
When people saying “passing” I take it as someone asking you where your diamond is from or something referring to the stone as a diamond and you dont mention its a moissy/vz/saphire. For me it just comes down to personal integrity. My ring is moissy and diamond. If someone refers to my middle stone as a diamond I will always say it’s a moissy because I’m proud of what I purchased and there are reasons behind it
This is similar to buying a fake louis vuitton bag or some other designer replica IMO. People buy those to show to “others” what they can afford because why else would you buy something to pretend it’s in your budget. You know its fake.. so it really is only for whtat others think…
I don’t really care what other people want to do.. it just seems disingenuine to lie over something so small… we as a society need to stop keeping up with the Joneses and live the best life we can afford to.. weddings are definitely included in this…
Post # 90
I think the majority of people will just think it’s a beautiful ring and assume the stone is a diamond, because that’s what is marketed and mainstream. If someone I care about asks, then I will proudly tell them it’s a moissanite. But just like the average diamond owner, I would not feel obliged to shout out to the world that I have a diamond (moissanite) and give all the detailed specs.