(Closed) Would you pick a diamond or moissy if pricing + ethical issues were equal?

posted 9 years ago in Rings
  • poll: Diamond or Moissanite (if everything were equal, read post below)

    Diamond

    Moissanite

  • Post # 107
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    Bumble bee
    • Wedding: February 2011

    @joyaaspera No. Fluoro does not effect a stone’s transperancy or clarity, or the perception of it, in most cases.

    Post # 108
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    Bee Keeper

    @starla:  I can see it, but I suppose that doesn’t mean it’s “widely noticeable,” since my GIA VS1 is far beyond “eye clean,” yet I can see its one inclusion with no loupe. I’ll leave it at that.

    Post # 109
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    Bumble bee
    • Wedding: February 2011

    I guess you have magic eyes, then. Nothing I’ve ever read – anywhere – suggests that fluorescence has any effect on transparency in the majority of cases. Nothing on PriceScope, nothing from Good Old Gold, and certainly nothing from GIA corroborates what you are saying.

    Here’s yet another piece of info, this time from GOG. Note the part that says about 10% of diamond with fluorescence have affected transparency, and the majority of those stones have very strong fluorescence:

    Fluorescence can also be bad if it is so strong that it alters the appearance of the diamond to a milky or oily look. Not in all diamonds but in about 10% of diamonds in the market place fluoresce so strong that the stone doesn’t look as transparent as it should. Diamonds with faint, medium or strong fluorescence generally don’t do this but when you are looking at a diamond with “very strong” fluorescence, ask to be able to observe it next to a stone with lower or no fluorescence. If you don’t see a difference in the transparency then it’s ok. I’m working on getting some comparison pictures up here so you can see this and I should be able to capture it.

    Post # 110
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    Newbee
    • Wedding: February 2013

    I have a moissanite, but I voted diamond in this poll. I love my ring and wouldn’t trade it for anything, but I chose moissanite because I wanted a decent size stone that would last forever that we could actually afford. I looked into colored gemstones as well, but like something a little more traditional looking so moissanite was the best choice for me. If diamonds weren’t so ridiculously priced I would have gone that direction when we were looking at rings.

    But like I said, I love my moissy ring, It’s got a beautiful sparkle and everyone compliments it.  Even if financial circumstances changed in the future I could never upgrade. It’s sentimental and that’s all that matters at this point 🙂

    Post # 111
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    Sugar bee
    • Wedding: July 2013

    @joya_aspera:  The Amora Gem is SiC, but it is a different type than what C&C is making, and this type of Moissanite has colorless rough. The company who creates the Amora Gem does not grade their own stones, and in fact NAGL’s techs (who grade the Amora Gem at an F color) were previous employees of GIA, and they received their training from GIA. NAGL is in no way comparable to EGL, so a GIA “F” and an NAGL “F” will be roughly the exact same color.

    If you think an F diamond is tinted, then yes, the Amora Gem will be too. If not, then the Amora Gem will look like an extra firey VS1, F color, H&A’s diamond.

    As for Fluoro, it only creates a milky or murky appearance in diamonds that are have very strong fluoro, and these stones are quite rare in the market place actually..

     

    Post # 112
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    Bumble bee
    • Wedding: February 2011

    @Kat:  +1. Saw the AG that Miss America (or Miss USA, w/e) was wearing…it looked white, white, white. Can’t wait for an AG right hand ring (but my bank account can)!

    Post # 113
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    Honey bee

    @Kat:  +1. So much misinformation being thrown around. 

    Post # 114
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    Sugar bee
    • Wedding: August 2011

    @joya_aspera:  Odd you insist the evidence others post within links as someones opinion but you keep saying you can see the cloudiness.  Isn’t that just your opinion?

    Either way it is best to agree to disagree.  It appears your eyes are super sensitive beyond what most of the rest of us may be able to see.  

    Post # 115
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    Sugar bee
    • Wedding: August 2011

    But to answer the OP question I did not go with an alternative for ethical reasons although those are admiral reasons.  Personally even in that scenerio I would not go with either.

    I either want a bellataire diamond or the amora gem.  Right now I have an asha in a diamond halo setting.  The setting is my forever setting.

    Post # 116
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    Sugar bee
    • Wedding: January 2000

    @skjumps:  I’m not in the market for an engagement ring, but I wouldn’t buy something I can’t see. Until they become common enough that I can view them at a mall jewelry store I wouldn’t buy one.

     

    Post # 117
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    Busy bee

    @skjumps:  That’s a very interesting point! I never thought of it that way. I wonder if they’ll market any of those “space diamonds” they found in Siberia for jewelry – now that would be a cool story to tell!

    (If you’re not familiar with the space diamond story, they recently found a place in Siberia where a meteor had crashed into a carbon deposit, forming millions of pounds of diamonds that are way over the Mohs scale!)

    Post # 118
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    Busy bee
    • Wedding: June 2013

    Probably moissanite.  I like the way it sparkles better.  Plus, it came from space!

    Post # 119
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    Bumble bee
    • Wedding: September 2013

    @joya_aspera:   “silicon carbide has yellow-green fluorescence. What is the Amora gem supposed to be made out of? Have they told people it won’t have it anymore, somehow?”

    The Amora gem has a different structure than regular moissanite, therefore different properties. Diamonds and graphite aren’t exactly the same because they’re both made if carbon, right?

    Post # 120
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    Busy bee
    • Wedding: November 2013

    @goodasitgets:  

    Thanks for breaking down the definition of first world problems. Unnecessary, really, because believe it or not, I knew what the phrase meant when I used it. Might educate others who read this though, if they’ve never heard of it before. I agree with you, people who complain of such trivial things are annoying to me too. And just take it on faith that no, my problems are not first world problems, just as I had originally stated. 

    And I understand they were random examples, but: Deciding on what stone to put in my ring? I’m overjoyed and grateful for the diamonds my Fiance got me. He saved up for my wedding set, and they’re modest compared to others, but they’re mine and I treasure them. I’d honestly be happy with anything he’d get me; the only “real” jewelry I own came from him. Before him, all I wore (if any at all) was clearance crap from Claire’s. Hence my hypothetical answer to the hypothetical question of “all things being equal, moissy vs. diamond?” If I had the means to be able to choose, I’d choose diamonds.

    Post # 121
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    Bumble bee
    • Wedding: June 2014

    @kayrie95:  don’t moissonites currently being sold actually come from labs, not space?

    Meteors containing diamonds have also been discovered on earth.

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