(Closed) Would you swap?

posted 3 years ago in Rings
Post # 91
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: November 2014

 

jasc8790 :  completely see where your coming from but please keep in mind what the original post was asking, this very thread asked for honest opinions and that what we have…everyone on both sides, being honest

Post # 92
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: November 2014

jewels84 :  Point taken, i happen to absoulely love my tiny inclusion that can be seen under magnigication…I like the uniqueness that no diamond is like mine……Im not a fan of the moissy just as some people are not diamonds lovers….I still dont think they could possibly as “valuable” as a diamond….they simply are not…..

Post # 93
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: February 2016

I’m happy with my e-ring and can’t see myself swapping out the diamond for anything else (not even another diamond).  I’ve never seen a moissanite stone in person, but the ones online look gorgeous.  I’d definitely give it a go in earrings.

Post # 94
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: October 2017

jewels84 :  moissanite is a diamond simulant that’s why its made. The real mineral silicon carbide is soo tiny and green color. A stone manufactured to copy is by nature (no pun intended haha!) considered less valuable-inferior. Like moissy, cz is also a different composition, however no one (I think!) would argue that it is as valuable as a real diamond. Of course none of this takes into account our feelings of sentimental value which can make anything “priceless”!

Post # 95
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: November 2011

annieem :  Definitely! I can respect other people’s opinions, but I don’t see why it’s necessary for someone to give more than a simple yes or no. Is it really ok to say, “No…but only because moissanites are fake, imitations of the real thing, etc…” We’re not all gonna love the same things on here, but I thought the point of this was to respectfully give your input without putting other people down. 

Post # 96
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: November 2017

jasc8790 :  But moissanite *are* diamond imitations.  They are created gems.CZ is it’s own unique chemical formula too but it’s still a sim.The question asked was would someone change their diamond for a moissanite.  Naturally someone would give their reasons why or not in their answer . Being honest does not mean someone is disrespectful. 

Post # 97
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: November 2011

mrstodd2bee : No, ur right, being honest doesn’t necessarily mean ur disrespectful. But all the comments about a moissanite being fake and not good enough for someone’s high standards are very disrespectful. 

Post # 98
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Helper bee

What about all of those posters with moissanites who condemn people who love diamonds as “stupid for spending that much” or “giving in to the blood diamond trade” etc? (As if you can’t get conflict-free diamonds easily). It’s an online forum and people are going to say their opinions on both sides. People are entitled to their opinions. Moissanites are beautiful but the reasons a lot of us gave for why we wouldn’t want one are perfectly fine to say and a lot of people would agree with. I’m sorry they offend you! 

Post # 100
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: September 2019

I wouldn’t trade mine. Couple of reasons:

(1) all stones are cut the same. Cause they’re cut by machines and to maximize brilliance or whatnot. Which means that they are not individually unique. Once people see one, they see it all. When the stone gets more normalize, and they will, it’ll be much easier to spot them because they will be like the others.

(2) that rainbow shine. Either as an oil slick or its sparkle. I don’t like either or. I like my own ring to sparkle crisp, bright lights. The rainbow flashes make it seem like it’s oily.

(3) the stain coming up because of the material itself. That’s weird and inconvenient. Also unattractive.

 

Post # 101
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: January 2010

forgotusername :  Actually not all moissanites are “robot cut” or all cut the same. I assume you mean robot as most people use some sort of machines to cut stones of any kind these days even when they are cutting them at the mine itself 🙂

The Amora Gems are standardized and cut via their fancy tiger robot or whatever so there is some consistency with those stones. But other moissanite manufacturers aren’t which can be an issue as it can mean ordering several stones (like F1s) and each being different. Some closer to being H&A than others, etc. Some having that weird black spot, others not at all. I have for example had many moissanite OECs and all were different – different patterns, different sized culets (teeny tiny to very large), different kozibe effects, different sized tables. I also switched out some H&As from Moissanite Co for OTHER H&As from Moissanite Co as I didn’t like the height of the crowns or table size on first ones. You can even see with the new ACC moissanites how different they range in size of culets, faceting, etc. This is also why some distributors send most stones back to the manufacturer or customers send back for a different one – because a lot aren’t great cuts.

As I said before, I would not switch a diamond for a moissanite but it is not true that all manufacturers have “standardized” cuts or they are all the “same” cut, no more so than all H&A diamonds are the same standardized cut.

I never had that oil slick thing myself. It sucks that some get it. It would be nice if someone could figure out why it happens!

Of the moissanite/AG stones I have personally seen, I think the classic/FB OECs and the MoCo H&As are most diamond like – not really with that crazy rainbow sparkle you describe.  

But even diamonds vary – the shallower for example the crown the more a diamond generally acts like a mirror rather than a prism. A big table and a shallow crown can give great white light return, but at expense of (coloured) fire. So then the reverse – a small table and a high crown as often seen in old cuts – can mean less white return and more fire. My antique cushion diamond – with its high crown and small table – for example has pretty good white light return but has excellent fire and can light the wall up like a rainbow discoball and throws pastel flashes in partial shade etc. My vintage marquise on the other hand has way more of a icy white “sparkle” to it as it is shallower and has a large table so gives more white light return and a lot less fire.

 

Post # 102
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: November 2011

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Post # 103
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Helper bee

SoonMrsCrocker2 :  I wasn’t talking about value,  but quality.  Annieem did not understand at first when I said that moissanites give the same effect as diamonds but is cheaper and do not sacrifice quality. I associate quality with performance, not where something originated or how it’s made…at least in this case. Of course a diamond is always going to be worth more than moissanite,  but to me the quality is the same. 

Post # 105
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Helper bee

annieem :  I love both and not necessarily one more than the other(except that intense rainbow sparkle from moissanite might give it a slight edge in my book). True,  moissanite will never be as valuable as a diamond, but I believe the quality to be the same. I’m glad that there is enough variety and options out there in the world to please everyone. 

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