Post # 211
Go – Its natural selection.
Just don’t believe that by taking part in any aspect of what they do is o-k for any reason. By attending you’re saying (if even indirectly) that what they do is ok. Don’t kid yourself otherwise.
Post # 212
ABusyBride: Lol I just saw that on my FB feed and thought of this very thread.
Post # 214
travelbee42: Hey bee, just thought I’d make you aware of this:
American student arrested as he was boarding a plane and sentenced to 15 years hard labor for Crimes against the Regime (he removed a politcal banner from a building)….
I’m not sure you could even get the visa TBH
Post # 215
As much as I understand you’re desire to go there, the culture truly is fascinating, I would not go especially if you are American. To me personally, the possiblity of being detained and held against my will does not sound like a good time, and the risk of this happening would out weigh my desire to travel there. Especially considering our authorities in the US can literally do nothing about it.
BalletParker: +1 on this
Post # 216
WestCoastV: Also just reading back through the comments, I agree with everything you had to say especially this:
People who dismiss the ethical implications of doing a state sponsored tour of DPRK, which will also financially benefit the regime….in another time would you have been cool with doing a tour of Nazi Germany organized by the Reich? How about a tour of Cambodia organized by the Khmer Rouge? Or for the American History buffs, a lovely cruise on a slave ship?
Post # 217
I would certainly go if I had the chance. I just would make sure to know the rules and customs before going. As we’ve seen with the news…if you go with bad intentions (stealing or smuggling out unapproved photos) then you’re putting yourself in major risk. Other than that, I wouldn’t feel scared to go but that’s just me.
Post # 220
The kid in the paper who got 15 years hard labor is one reason why the US upped their warning re travel to North Korea and was the reason I quoted the new state department warnings.
for those who are still knocking on the “if you don’t do anything wrong nothing bad will happen” rainbow, Be careful. The world doesn’t actually work like that.
Post # 221
To those saying ‘I wouldn’t do anything bad while there’- you realize that most people who have been detained there recant their stories once home, right? Because they’re no longer being forced to say these things?
The story about the UVA kid needing money for a $10000 car and the woman offering $200k in case he got stopped? Really?? So the kid spent maybe $4-5k to get a $10k used car? With the possibility of imprisonment? Ya, no.
Post # 222
- Wedding: March 2016 - Miami
travelbee42: Honestly, no. So today in wake of the terrible tragedy in Brussels, my mom sent my brother and I this weird innapropriate email about being so concerned for the world we live in and saying how she was worried about us both going to Europe later this year (my honeymoon and later in the year, his). I couldn’t help but respond with saying that you can’t let fear keep you from living. and I really do believe in that but that doesn’t mean ignoring situations of very high risk. I don’t believe this act of terrorism in Belgium (horrific as it is) should deter me from visiting Italy next month, but I’m not about to go touring around Libya any time soon.
Visiting North Korea would fall into that latter category. While there may not be bombs going off in the streets there, you could very easily find yourself arrested for violating some unfamiliar law and sentenced to 15 years of hard labor and there’s not much the US State Dept. could do for you. This was literally just in the news. I do understand wanting to experience their culture and the facination with a country so isolated. And hopefully sometime down the road it will be safer for you to visit. But I wouldn’t right now. Personally I’d LOVE to visit Tehran, but I won’t any time soon because the risk for an American woman is higher than I’d like to expose myself to.
Lastly, if the unfamilair, remote, and mysterious is something that draws you, have you considered visiting Bhutan?
Post # 223
Not for a million dollars.